100% Satisfaction ~ Pre-Owned C $214.37 Buy It Now +C $25.43 shipping estimate from United States The art blueing could just as well have been not applied. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Schuyler Canterbury KJV This is a major ground breaking design. And let me tell you these bibles were in dire need of a rebind and Leonards brought them back to life. If high end skin is again desired will send a new TBS Westminster out for a custom rebinding. Writing In Your Bible: The Schuyler Canterbury and the Case for Traditional Wide Margin Bibles In a market packed with Bibles designed for recording both the thoughts and the artistic expressions inspired by your reading, is there still a place for traditional wide margin editions? It is Jongbloed who does all the binding and printing for Schuyler and with that being said, it would appear that Schuylers biggest issue might be with quality control. The comments I have made are directed not only to the bible publishing and marketing community in this country only, it is directed to the market and labor in general. The New Pilgrim Bible, KJV Paperback - October 9, 2003 by E. Schuyler English (Editor) 1 rating See all formats and editions Paperback $239.99 1 New from $239.99 The Pilgrim Bible, first published in 1948 by Oxford University Press, was designed to help young people learn about their faith. Click to . I can see not any difference. But these two observations are minor. You can see the blue through the silver and it has a very fine spotty pattern. As you can see in my brief review above. Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Full Yapp Black Goatskin Bible. I love those choices. Free shipping. Even my old, but unused, Holman Master Study Bible (mid 1980s) in hand grained Morocco, made in the USA will rival or exceed the Netherlands entries workmanship. Rated 4 out of 5. by mcintyre.robert The text is printed in two-column format with references on the outer and inner margins. You could always rebind it later if it does give you trouble. Just a little more care and observation in the neglected attributes is all that is required, just a little as most is there. Next I wanted to see dimensionally just how much the left portion of the front cover is raised above the textblock when bible is laying down flat. away from the start of the liner hinge that is not glued down. This makes it very readable. The merits of the container only. Ive had mine since Xmas and with daily use it still is in good shape. Im glad you like it! And it is a quality that used to exist, but seems forgotten in our time and place. Glad to see I am not the only one. I could be wrong but I dont think it would be significantly longer. The Cover and binding are of the highest quality available. First, they have created a text setting that looks more like the ol' KJV than the ol' KJV itself. I have dealt with EVB and can truly say that they are a fine company, I have purchased bibles from them, and have experienced nothing but top notch service and prices. His precious Word showed the error of my ways, the love that Christ had for those His Father gave Him, and by a contrite heart why one should conform to the image of His Son out of love for He loved us first. 5. This is apparent in almost every product marketed in this country, Ive in my 72 years witnessed it time and time again. It also contains the books and chapters that appear on that page. It is time to leave for evening services so Ill cut this short and wish Gods blessings on all of us. Only in the past year have I bought any new bibles. I do like the Longprimer, but I find the notes and references in this one to be more useful and the sharp text is amazing even for the references and notes indicators. Dont expect the front cover to lay down flat even if it is goatskin. All turned out well with this reconstructive, aesthetic surgery. Brother Don, you said nothing that offended me. But as things stand would not recommend these editions to any with a potential interest. Everything is in good order on the bottom side alignment of the liner/flange cutout and the attachment of the cover liner to textblock is well effected. Picture Information. Schuyler Quentel KJV (when it comes out). I would also like to see a decorative trim, like a gold line, around stitching of the liner. Thank you for writing this review. I am coming to a tentative conclusion that most real, practical needs can be adequately covered with ones choice of the TBS Westminster, Windsor, LCBP Cameo or one of their hand sized editions and one will not need to feel of having missed anything, but still have a quality choice and variety of good to excellent text blocks and durable covers with the obvious far cheaper prices. It might end up being my preaching and carry Bible. Randy, As far as the Quentel, it is a large Bible. 4. This condition is not there with the edge lined goatskin Schuyler. The SCHUYLER KJV is now in stock. The KJV Schuyler Reference Bible takes a different approach to the problem of comprehension, sticking with pre-20th century design but incorporating features like archaic word lists and guides to thees and thous to make the job a little easier for modern day traditionalists. The Concord is nice bit doesnt open as well in goatskin. $177.00 + $5.05 shipping. Theyre some of the nicest ribbons Ive seen in any Bible. His Holy Spirit gave me life by regeneration and to be receptive to His Word. KJV, Spirit-Filled Life Bible, Third Edition, Hardcover, Red Letter, Comfort Print: Kingdom Equipping Through the Power of the Word $27.49 (224) In Stock. I think the criticism on this thread has been respectful and should be helpful to all concerned, so where did this feeling that at least one of us is upset about what has been said come from? Gold, Diamonds, Firearms, Coins. Well I have waited a few days to give a proper opinion of the Schuyler KJV. My only complaint with the cover is that it tends to make the leather cracking sounds when moving. Having said this I am aware of others who disagree. NIV - SCHUYLER QUENTEL IMPERIAL BLUE GOATSKIN. The unique design presents the text in a modified "reader" format where chapter and verse numbers are available in the margins, but the text is otherwise quite clean and uncluttered. Is it the 1611 text? Disappointing yes, but not enough of a deal breaker to bother with a return, maybe? I REALLY love both of these Bibles. Both use the very same text block. It has a modern digital 9.6 font in black letter and it is one of the best fonts for reading that Ive seen in a KJV. Went ahead and ordered two of the black vinyl covered from TBS and am sure they will be delivered correctly and are on their way as this is typed. Today, more than 400 years since its initial publication, the bestselling King James Version Bible continues to inspire, encourage, and strengthen people from all walks of life. Assuming the book is not abused but used frequently. For safety concerns, earbuds are not permitted and this means that environment can be raised to quite a cacophony of discord in metal, heavy metal type music?? The latter is according to their website; as for that reason I confine my order not to exceed the $200 mark. It would force more of the research into other books or bibles but that usually happens anyways. OK! 3 x 1 cm ribbons (Red) Art-Gilt edging (red under gold) Gilt line (gold line inside the cover) There are secular forums where there is much wailing about the state of the nation and all that we need to do is get back to the principles of the founding fathers, rebellion, etc. The only thing Im curious about is their high shipping rates when an order exceeds the $200 dollar level because in my case all shipments (expedited service) have been by USPS Priority Mail which is a flat rate with a quite high weight allowance. John has raised some valid points about current quality standards in publishing. Was able to see the not very well glued down ends of the flange. Dont think the applied silver will remain whole for very long. There is a unique flow to the text. $170.00 + $5.05 shipping. Schuyler Bibles are printed and bound in the Netherlands by Royal Jongbloed, one of the finest book binderies in Europe. Schuyler Westminster at the top says a lot about its quality. I have a question I am hoping you can help me with. Picture Information. $250.00 + $17.10 shipping. $499.99 + $9.25 shipping. It has 6 raised ribs. The Mahogany leather of the Schuyler is more of a tan color. Amen Brother! Its very readable even with the 4 columns on each page, and the cover is just amazing. If I had done similarly in my former trades, I would have not lasted two weeks before being shown the door. The best selling Schuyler Canterbury KJV Bible is now available in a Wide Margin format! Ive heard good things about their customer service and I know their goal is the highest quality possible. It has perimeter stitching and a yapp (overhang to protect the page-edges). Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. NASB Reference Bible Prime Edition and Leathertex Review Also, when hand holding the TBS, can insert by big finger between the text block spine and the covers spine!!! This was mentioned earlier. It follows a similar pattern of their Quentel series but has a few design features that are unique in modern Bible publishing, creating a unique blend of old and new. Im also waiting on the Canterbury. The ribbons will be different colors than this for the other covers. John. Take for instance if you were to purchase a TBS Westminster, but you decided you wanted to have it bound in Goatskin or even a different color binding, your purchase price and the costs of the rebind will exceed the costs of a Schuyler, and happy hunting finding someone to stitch the perimeter of the binding for you. The Stridon is Schuyler's latest Bible design. Your email address will not be published. Schuyler KJV Reference Let me say that they have made these bibles better than the first. It has verse by verse in double columns and Psalms set to stanzas in a single column. You will have to contact the seller. Well, upon a more thorough inspection, things are not that rosy! If I had those answers, I would imagine that there would be literally thousands willing to pay to consult with me. Even checked their website after receiving and they still only offer them in black vinyl covered! As a result, this small area of liner material is pulled away from being secured to the inside of the cover. SCHUYLER NASB PERSONAL Size Quentel Black Goatskin - EUR 94,33. For example, page 720 contains Psalms 38-40. And, I have been to websites that sell goatskin hides at retail and the hides are not cheap. The buttero calfskin isnt as floppy, but I like it better than Allan gostskin. They would only include the chapter that starts on the page, so they would show 39-40. There also seems to be somewhat of a difference in price between what the customer pays for goatskin vs. calfskin. Is it error for this blessing, to exalt His Word in visible beauty by the talents God bestowed upon His instruments that print His wondrous Word for those that are His? I hope none of you all take any of my comments as meaning anything other than that. and place your order, then after a few weeks find your new bible waiting inside your mailbox. This was rolled back about , at which point it was well secured to the textblock, along its entire length fully revealing the topside of the liner flange. Cambridge Concord The KJV Reference is listed as a larger font than the Concord but photos make it look like the Concord might be easier to read. My current favorite preaching Bible is the TBS version of the Cambridge Large Print Text. Thanks again for the update. this indicates that Paul and each and every one of the recipients of this epistle and all church age believers received the action of being chosen out from the members of the human race by God the Father in Christ before the foundation of the world in order that they would be holy and unblemished in His sight. I believe most of my comments were in regards to the price difference of the materials used and not the overall construction of either bible. I find paragraph format to be better for reading, but verse-format is easier for me when using it in Church or study because I can find the verses much faster. It will most likely be discontinued. For now, I choose to huff and admire my 53BR and Mahogany KJV Schuyler (although the Schuylers dont have a scent like the goatskin on Allans IMO). Beautiful bible, you won't believe how great 125801670108 It is distressing to me to see how the direction of our society has taken effects this and other industries but I dont know what the solutions are. An excellent review by Mark Bertrand. And since I consider myself more of a textblock and paper guy Im glad you touched on the opacity issue between the Schuyler and the TBS, which I believe you noted no noticeable difference or improvement in ghosting? The NT is the same width as the Thompson Chain, but its 3/4 taller, which was rebound in Cowhide, apparently over some thin book boards, which is real nice, but stiff. 28 GSM Indopaque Paper. My only complaint is there is no index to maps. No significant difference, just sample variation. There are at the present time, societies wherein one can be imprisoned or even killed for the possession of even a paperback bible. And there's also that author thing. There are no marks or damage. Thank you for your very well reasoned comments. Funny thing is; I found a use for all but the Longprimer 63. (Here are some pics of this Bible) This Bible will be identical to the current Canterbury KJV Bible, with the following exceptions: 1. I have adjusted pretty well to the TBS Westminister, and can use it while seated now. Thank God for firms like EVB, Alans Cambridge, etc. They dont have plans to bind them again. Schuyler Westminster- personal study, references, and carrying. Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Black Goatskin Bible Rated 4.89 out of 5 $ 205.00 Purchase Details Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Imperial Blue Goatskin Bible Rated 4.90 out of 5 $ 205.00 All of the businesses and ministries we have been discussing are either directly or indirectly doing the Lords work and deserve our respect. Allan gets this done right in my Longprimer and Clarendon KJVs and LCBP does most excellent workmanship in their edge-lined examples that I own in this aspect. The embossing for the gold impressions on the cover and spine are shallow. Its basic precept is quality and durability in every detail of the Bible. It is a great Bible for carry, reading, and study. I originally bought most of these bibles with the intention of finding the ones that suit me best and selling or giving away the ones that dont. $349.99 + $9.95 shipping . The Schuyler Classic Reference KJV is available at EvangelicalBible.com. I dont want to be a curmudgeon that finds no good thing, but their are definite problems out there for almost every industry. Like all chapter summaries in KJVs you have to be careful with the contents (some place the Church in the OT, etc.). Picture 1 of 6. It gets really worse. Free shipping. What I determined was that the liner is not glued down to the inside of the cover right up to the beginning of the hinge radius of the liner or to say adjacent the beginning of the flange. What they have done with the better blue ribbons, classy cover with gold inlay around the inner edge, and binding changes, has made this to be in my opinion, the best bible you can own. Or the persecution, torture, and murder of Christians in Russia after the 1917 revolution. The liner is black, which doesnt look as nice as it could have if it matched the cover. Our best approximation for arrival in our warehouse is May. Randy on the other hand, to the best of my knowledge, has always been respectful of both publishers and translations. The Navy color shows some blue in direct sunlight, becoming more darker in shade, and indoors even still darker. The ribbon placement is very nice, not perfect, but quite close to being so. The chapter summaries span the column of text and the references, so they take two columns. So I guess until it does, it is as you so eloquently and humorously put it in harmony with the times. Rather than section headings, the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible has chapter summaries. Rated 5 out of 5. by Rick . However, I could never be so adventurous as to purchase another Schuyler and it should be obvious that I had no intention of sending this one back (if so it would have been for a refund this time) before meddling into fixing the irritation! It might be a while before they know for sure. Paragraph format with bolder verse numbers would have been nice, but thats a matter of the layout from TBS and their target audience. SCHUYLER WIDE MARGIN KJV Bible - $307.92. $ 200.00 $ 190.00. I have just received my Schuyler KJV and am not enamored over a couple things which I will address with other comments in a new reply later. If I have done anything to offend any one of you all or if my comments have even made someone uncomfortable, please forgive me. for the most part before a supervisor has to order them to tone it down. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rare OOP Schuyler Reference KJV dark purple at the best online prices at eBay! I have never seen such a pathetic example of the placement of ribbons in a bible. Free shipping. Ill let it go for a hreat deal. Schuyler Bibles are actually printed and bound by Royal Jongbloed, in the Netherlands. Other than for note taking, it can be the be all bible. Maybe a 50-50 line type of appearance. Although, I do agree with you that the tone that Randy has set on this blog in my opinion has not been followed. This makes them much more readable and usable. The effect of quality workmanship in this particular concern, as executed properly by Allan and LCBP is that the liner up to the start of the hinge is firmly anchored and is positioned quite close to the adjacent corner of the textblock. I would also like to repeat, that in comparison with other retailers EVbible.com, for the most part, offers the best prices. Regardless, the blemish was slight in size and effect. Ecclesiastes 9.10 However I have been considering the Prof. Horner Bible Reading plan and I really like his theory of getting very comfortable or imprinting one bible to help memorize and access the scripture. SCHUYLER NASB PERSONAL SIZE QUENTEL BLACK GOATSKIN . Purchased new by me in 175631204626 I have the both the hardback and calfskin TBS Westminster. to return to the once golden era? of hedonism and material accumulations (never repentance and turning to the ways of God). I found the LCBP Thompson Chain Reference too soft for me as well, that one is going out for re-binding in stiffer calfskin for the reasons I listed. They are printed on thick paper with a dull finish. Sponsored. It is beautiful in every way. Another thing noticed, before any action was taken, was when hand holding the bible, the front joint of the cover formed a rib- like bulge along its length, but such was completely absent on the bottom joint. Im hoping its true, as this is an important feature for me. I hoghly recommend this bible. NASB (New American Standard Bible) New American Standard Bible 2020 (NASB) I seen elsewhere your recommendation of a 4 book combination and do concur. Great review! Schuyler Signor. Not just the double-column layout and the verse-by-verse line breaks but even the phonetic spelling of supposedly difficult words is maintained. This is another feature that I think places this one above the Longprimer. For instance, Ive noted comments such as pathetic and unacceptable in the description of the Schuyler KJV Westminster and later the term lifeless was mentioned in regards to modern bible translations. Schuyler has produced the Westminster with all the bells and whistles you would expect in a premium edition - goatskin leather, edge-lined, stitched, art-gilt edges, and 4 thick ribbons. This single bad page was such it was noticeable from the outside as the creases lifted or supported the pages above it. And no offense intended, but when it comes to spreading the gospel of GOD, I dont think TBS or LCBP is the only shop in town. Concordance This is the same concordance found in the Concord. Hi Randy, The KJV, AV, or simply known at one time as The Holy Bible is the most reverent language glorifying and honoring God the Father, Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit. Schuyler Wide Margin KJV Bible. I have the first generation as well. Schuyler uses only the finest materials in crafting their Bibles. It is wonderful that it is not only beautiful, but easy to use, read and contains so many helpful features. Cambridge KJV Concord Reference Bible, Dark Blue Goatskin-RED Letter, Full Yapp. Or I may just request a refund. My point being, is the opacity (lack of ghosting) better in one bible over the other? The hinge area of the cover between its front and spine is quite large in radius. In 1611, the King James Version Bible, also known as the Authorized Version, was published. FOR SALE! What effect this has on small businesses like Schuyler/EV Bible I cant say as I dont know how many give one time love offerings or regular tithes to the ministries. This is totally unacceptable in an $185 bible if the makers of a $30 or so dollar bible can get this right. I suspect it may last longer than the leather version. Rated 5 out of 5. by Landon Leslie The cover joint between the spine and front is still of a large radius and the left portion of the front cover stays lifted a little from the textblock. to repeat at a later date. The Quentel KJV whenever it comes out will have a larger font but then we get into the other concern. Full Yapp Natural Grain Black Pearl Calfskin Cover with Navy Calfskin Lining Same Pagination as the Quentel CSB (all page numbers and format will be identical) 8.5 point Milo font Page size: 4.7 x 7.1 x 1.1 (120 mm x 180 mm x 28 mm) Line Matching 28 GSM Indopaque Paper 2 Navy Ribbons Art-Gilt Edging (blue under silver) Gilt Line . Thank you Randy, and I greatly appreciate your reviews! . The Treveris is a unique typesetting from Schuyler that seeks to give the Bible reader a format that is free of human commentary, i.e. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Free delivery for many products. To each of us as hath been given light or delusion. Traditionally named after a precious stone, this large-format setting has a comfortable-sized print to suit both private study and public reading. If the flange is not glued down as well as stitched, I saw a possibility with use that it may lift after the cover had endured a measure of movement or flexing? I wonder how easy or safe it is to get any bible in Iran for instance or if that government would even allow a site/blog like this one. This can be solved by printing the verse numbers bolder. Where allowed, and many concerns do allow it on the production floor, music has to be the near constant companion for many, particularly the entry level age up to those in their latter 40s. Same paper, thickness, etc. For quick reference and easy use, verse format is fine. I really like my new 2nd generation Schuyler, but it sounds like youre looking for a longprimer. With kind thoughts, Its most likely 1769. And, I understand that LCBP is a ministry, but in some cases TBS bibles are actually cheaper than the bibles from LCBP. . Tried to keep this short yet explainable. The Schuyler measures .129-.130 thick per 100 sheets (200 pages) versus .132 similarly for the TBS. LOAN STAR PAWN LLC STATE 354609134976 I often find my thumb or pinky finger hooked under the spine while I hold the bible when reading. The Schuyler Canterbury looks VERY interesting. What can we say when we compare our lives to theirs and why we are blessed with so much in our freedom of worship, knowledge of His Word, in the midst of great apostasy and moral depravity? The grain of the leather is simply gorgeous. A List of Words and Proper Names with Their Pronunciation 14.5 pages and contains almost every name in the Bible. VENDRE! KJV Holy Bible, Giant Print Center-Column Reference Bible, Black Premium Goatskin Leather, Premier Collection, 53,000 Cross References, Comfort Print: King James Version by Thomas Nelson 4.8 (1,806) Leather Bound $6438$169.99 FREE delivery Mar 15 - 16 Other format: Hardcover For this reason I usually like the slightly stiffer covers like the calf-split Concord, the calf-skin Clarion, and the TBS Westminster for holding in one hand to read. I am in my upper 30s in 10-15 years will the font in the Concord or the KJV Reference be too small to preach from? I do know though that regardless of what the source of our bibles, that relative to the quality of other kinds of products, their quality is quite good. Thank you Trying to decide if its worth it to make the investment. I have the tbs westminster reference bible in calfskin. Anyone who in any way promotes the Gospel is in my opinion doing a good thing. The front cover on the Schuyler due to the LARGE hinge radius will not lay as flat against the text block as it will the on TBS, nor as it does as on the Allan Longprimer or Clarendon. $152.50. I have decided to hold off on any purchase of a high end bible until they finalize and release a few more details on that one. This Ive not seen permitted in the offices or engineering areas. It is to my mind almost incomprehensible that anyone could do this careless of a job in ribbon placement. Its still in the planning phase but it will most likely be smaller than the Quentel but still a larger and darker print than the KJV Reference. In another sense, there will be some nice books of Gods Word to be passed on, after I cease this earthly existence. Features: - Calfskin Leather cover - 200,000+ Cross references - Black text throughout - Quality sewn binding - 4 Ribbon Markers (2 Red, 2 Black) - Quality Bible paper Additional Contents: - Gift presentation page 3. NIV - SCHUYLER Quentel Imperial Blue Goatskin - $189.12. The format that TBS has in common with the Schuyler will be wonderful for those who prefer a softer cover. The first Stridon is in the 2020 NASB. However this TBS bible is much better than the Windsor or Concord I have from them. Evangelical bible did cover it with a plate that has my name on it. The three bible options I am considering are as follows: Critically comparing the ghosting in the same areas of both with the Schuyler, I can see absolutely no empirical difference with my eyeball. You also might want to take note of the listing on LCBP about the Thompsons, I dont know when or if theyll be rebinding more anytime soon? CLICK HERE for photos. And if Randy has an issue with anything I have posted, then in the future Ill attempt to practice a little more reservation when posting comments, information or links. The cover flanges are pretty uniform and the excellent stitching is well within the flange borders. I agree with you on the soft covers, which do not work very well on larger a sized bible, although the Goatskin on the Schuyler is heavier/thicker than the Calfskin on the LCBP. Schuyler looks at all the aspects of Bible Binding to produce a Bible that represents the highest quality in binding, materials, craftsmanship & legibility. I think that most printing is indeed done overseas, this is due to the lamentable cost of labor and material here in the United States of America probably more than for any other reason. NKJV Single Column Reference Bible in Blue Genuine Leather by Randy A Brown | Jul 8, 2022 | 1 . Not that it really means anything, but suspect that the TBS will not prove as durable in its end page hinges? I am just happy that we have access to to the large variety and high quality of Gods Word and related literature we have. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Thanks Don. Has minor 325551481136 Various Helpful Characteristics of the Authorized Version This section includes information on the use of italics, Lord vs LORD, capitalizations, use of OT names in the NT, Thou and Ye (very informative). This without any doubt occurred in its manufacture. The Schuyler Treveris, named for the British printer Peter Treveris from the 1400-1500's, is a new Bible that was designed primarily to be a reader. Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. So appreciate your comments, memory, and care. Not real sure of who you are referring to specifically, but I have gone back and reread what I had written and I did not see anything specific which would give anybody the idea that I was upset. I dont know what the solution will be, only time and the market will correct the situation. The Westminster Reference Bible is an extensive reference Bible that is very reasonably priced for a Bible printed and bound by Jongbloead in the Netherlands with a soft and luxurious Meriva calfskin cover. The format of the text is beautiful. Was then able to easily separate each end for about 1.5 to 2 inches inboard in a diagonal manner before encountering much resistance at which point no more pulling back of the flange was attemped or even needed.